Zap - zap@z.macgirvin.com

Zap

Tue, 17 May 2022 15:27:48 -0700

Scott M. Stolz wrote the following post Tue, 17 May 2022 15:27:43 -0700

@!Zap I noticed that there is a lot of versions in the repository, such as Zap, Osada, Redmatrix, Mistpark, Roadhouse, and Streams.

For one of my projects, I would like to implement nomadic identity without the social media part. In other words, they can use remote authentication to log in to my website, including magic login.

Is there a solution that currently does that, and if not, where would be a good starting point?

mike

Tue, 17 May 2022 15:40:56 -0700

The streams repo is the only one being actively developed.

They all support nomadic identity and magic auth (which are completely different concepts).

RockyIII

Wed, 18 May 2022 00:16:14 -0700

Lately I´m thinking a lot about the power which comes with "magic auth" to websites.

This power is not at all really used in its whole potentiate because ZAP and also Hubzilla are most often used as just a SM tool. Maybe that is because not many other Apps / functionality besides SM are not offered jet which work with Hubzilla or even Zap.

I understand that ZAP is more focused on ActivityPub and because Hubzilla is not that focused on that protocol new Apps and functionality can be more easily adapted to Hubzilla. @mike Would you say that this is true, or is this a misunderstanding ?

Today Email is still the most used identify service. With an Email account you get excess to all kinds of different Webpages. The good thing is that is works on all kind of platforms which can do a lot of different things. The bad thing is that you have a register - login process and on every site a new PW is needed.

with "magic auth" you all don´t need that but there are not all this other Apps and functionalities besides SM jet.

@Scott M. Stolz a lot of work to do - but hey - what great prospects

Scott M. Stolz

Wed, 18 May 2022 08:00:37 -0700

I think that implementing both nomadic identity and magic auth on non-social or semi-social websites would change the internet, and tip the balance of control back to the users.

Just the ability to remotely authenticate, from a user's perspective, is a game changer. They only have to log into their own hub once, and can remotely authenticate everywhere else. No more multiple passwords. No more multiple 2FA.

If you add in nomadic identity, people are not locked into one particular website for their identity.

There are a lot of possibilities here.

Theming: Hubzilla vs. Zot

Zap

Mon, 16 May 2022 08:51:58 -0700

Scott M. Stolz wrote the following post Mon, 16 May 2022 08:51:58 -0700

Theming: Hubzilla vs. Zot
I am currently working on a new theme for Hubzilla, and have noticed how similar Zap is to Hubzilla, at least on the outside.

I was wondering two things:

Could a Hubzilla theme be adapted to Zap?
Is there an interest in me doing so?

Scott M. Stolz

Mon, 16 May 2022 08:57:55 -0700

And, pardon the typo in the title. I can't edit it, so if an admin can edit it for me, that would be great.

Zap

Wed, 11 May 2022 14:05:27 -0700

oRx-Qx pirateradio wrote the following post Wed, 11 May 2022 14:05:14 -0700

@!Zap

Hello,
I migrated to Streams but the Like button is not working. The wheel spinning forever. Commenting or posting also does not work. Posting makes notice: System error

In log:
INSERT INTO ITEM ...
SQLSTATE[HY000]: General error: 1364 Field 'route' doesn't have a default value

After starting Streams in /admin the old DB was already updated to 1258, but anyway I ran dbsync/1254 1255 and 1257 all successful.

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OrX_Qx pirateradio

Thu, 12 May 2022 15:45:08 -0700

Oh, there is also Grant permission to republish your posts, which is No. And even if Accept delivery of DM is No, they are received.

Actually, I dont know if this was set this way in Zap already, because I did not try to post then. What I know that I did not touch any of those.

mike

Thu, 12 May 2022 15:47:42 -0700

Sorry there were difficulties. I've tried really hard to make this transition painless.

This looks like the Streams channel wasn't successfully connected to the group.

First - check that the group is actually a group in the channel settings. there were a couple of channel types that couldn't be migrated precisely and might have been set to a normal social account.

If it is a group, delete the connection on both sides and try it again. It should look better. If it doesn't, it's truly bizarre. Basically every streams connection should get the group default permissions and this one did not.

OrX_Qx pirateradio

Thu, 12 May 2022 16:09:43 -0700

Did the last one. Deleted the Streams contact on both sides and reconnected. Working now. Deliver stream and Accept DM are now Yes.

And I was wrong. The problematic contact was added 9 months ago, so it was while the group was on Hubzilla dev branch.

Thanks very much for help! Lets flow in fresh streams now...

Can't undo likes/dislikes on comments

Zap

Fri, 22 Apr 2022 18:07:20 -0700

Papa Dragon wrote the following post Fri, 22 Apr 2022 18:07:17 -0700

Can't undo likes/dislikes on comments
While I was wotking on a fixing a custom theme, I noticed something a bit odd on @!Zap . If for some reason I like or dislike a comment, if I change my mind an try to undo my click, nothing will happen.

Even stranger, If I liked the main post, then like a comment, if I try to unlike the comment, it's the post that will be unliked while the comment remains liked. Probably has something to do with a .js script, but I now nothing about this language...

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Papa Dragon

Sat, 23 Apr 2022 18:04:20 -0700

This seems to work in dev.

Now, I've noticed that if, for some crazy reason, you want to like the main article or one of its comments while you're writing a comment, you get stuck with the spinner next to the "Like" icon. You have to refresh the page to get the coloured "Like" icon.

It seems highly unlikely that anyone would want to do this IRL, but it is probably not the expected behaviour.

mike

Sat, 23 Apr 2022 19:07:03 -0700

Not very long ago I changed behaviour so that we defer updates while you're writing a comment, because if you're commenting to an active thread, any page updates will tend to toss you around and you'll have to scroll about to find where you were typing again. This is in my opinion much more annoying than getting stuck with a spinner until you finish the comment.

Papa Dragon

Sat, 23 Apr 2022 22:26:15 -0700

This is in my opinion much more annoying than getting stuck with a spinner until you finish the comment.

Yes, indeed.

Photo visibility

Zap

Fri, 22 Apr 2022 02:15:23 -0700

lotfi wrote the following post Fri, 22 Apr 2022 02:15:17 -0700

Photo visibility
I noticed a strange behavior in Zap. When I post a photo uploaded from my gallery, it is not visible to my contacts outside Zap and Hubzilla, even if the photo is "Public". When I upload it from my computer, no problem. Is this a known behavior?

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mike

Sun, 24 Apr 2022 14:43:57 -0700

A "boost" (technically an ActivityPub "Announce") of each group post is sent by the group owner to trigger notifications of group activity on Mastodon. This is not required by "conversational" platforms and should probably be ignored by them. Although wasteful and duplicitous, this is an entirely legal ActitivyPub construct.

IIRC, somewhere in Hubzilla is some left-over code from the StatusNet days to display posts as standalone if the parent couldn't be found. Although this is technically how the Twitter-like platforms work (everything is displayed standalone by default), this has privacy implications in fediverse projects which use the top-down "conversational" delivery model (such as Hubzilla, Friendica, and Diaspora) and probably should be removed or at least reviewed.

mike

Sun, 24 Apr 2022 14:51:19 -0700

Also if parent-less activities are to be displayed, it should probably be determined if they are 'Announce' activities so that at least they can be attributed to the correct author.

el veciet

Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:21:16 -0700

testing comment...from hz

Zap

Fri, 01 Apr 2022 16:29:08 -0700

OrX_Qx pirateradio wrote the following post Fri, 01 Apr 2022 16:29:08 -0700

Hi,

How do I import content from Json file from Hubzilla? I've read it should work but using /import URL the form says the format is incompatible. For both whole channel export and also for individual monthly content file.

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mike

Fri, 01 Apr 2022 19:00:46 -0700

As long as you act quickly before any relationships are made, you can delete the channel record which should let you start over.

How to remove the channel locations it inherited from hubzilla. Can I just delete them in Channel locations?

Yes.

OrX_Qx pirateradio

Sat, 02 Apr 2022 02:58:28 -0700

Thanks! Let me clarify something which I do not know exactly .

import via network shows 504 Gateway timeout after a while but the process seems to start internally and later brings the content

another network import from other location does not make new channel but connect to already imported perhaps via the internal hash?

import_items to new empty channel shows images nice, but they are not in channel storage so it links somehow to already existing files in previously imported channel?

https://webs.node9.org/photo/e8b65151-3784-4a7d-ac02-409f6c03c49a-1.jpg - works, but is not in channel photos/files
zrl href
https://webs.node9.org/photos/waterlily/image/e8b65151-3784-4a7d-ac02-409f6c03c49a - Image does not exist
changing it to
https://webs.node9.org/photos/waterlily9004/image/e8b65151-3784-4a7d-ac02-409f6c03c49a - Image is there

I want to make a new channel without the number "waterlily9004" but some nicer nickname.
So deleting all imported channels and starting again would work?

Thanks again, imports are quite powerful I just try to get it to the best shape.

mike

Sat, 02 Apr 2022 04:42:27 -0700

It is quite possible to run into network timeouts and have memory issues when importing files. The easiest way to work around any such issues is just import again with the same settings as before. If it goes through without any errors you'll see a little popup that the import is complete. If you don't get that success popup, repeat until you do.

Zap

Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:18:04 -0700

André França wrote the following post Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:18:04 -0700

Hi. Please, I would like to confirm two things about Zap:

a) The folders (and their names) that we create in the "Files (cloud)" section are visible to everyone, including people who don't have a Fediverse account, correct?
(But not necessarily the content of the folder - this depends on the "permission" used for the upload.)

b) Zap does not have a "Public Stream", like Hubzilla; so that on Zap the public posts are seen only by our connections and by those who know our channel address, correct?

Thanks in advance.

mike

Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:31:08 -0700

a) incorrect. Directories may be public or private.

b) incorrect. Since the public stream is often a cesspool of misinformation and hate and random pornography it is disabled by default. The site admin can provide a "site only" public stream or a federated public stream as desired. To reduce the possibility of unmoderated content sending the site owner to jail due to local laws, either of these options can be made visible to site members only.

CalDav

Zap

Tue, 01 Mar 2022 11:13:13 -0800

Fed Admin wrote the following post Tue, 01 Mar 2022 11:13:12 -0800

CalDav
Could anybody help me:

I have just installed Zap using the zotserver-setup.sh script. Apart from a tweak to get backups working to a local directory, all went very smoothly.

While playing with my new istall, I tried to get my Android phone (DAVx or Caldav-sync) to connect to a channel calendar but it will not work properly. Using the path my.server.com/cdav/calendars/channelname it only finds a calendar called Default. I can create an event in this calendar on my phone but it is not visible in the channel's calendar via the web interface. Also, events created via the web are not visible on my phone.

If I use cadaver I can see the calendar called Default and i can also see the .ics file connected to the event I created. There is no sign of the events created via the web.

So it seems I'm looking at two different calendars.

With cadaver, I also expected to see the calendar that belongs to another channel I created under the same user but it wasn't there.

Any ideas what I might be doing worng?

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Fed Admin

Wed, 02 Mar 2022 00:52:06 -0800

Ok, have just read my messages again, and realise it makes me sound as if I am expecting you to implement something. That wasn't my intention. It was at first a misunderstanding about the use of caldav. Out of this it was an idea of having a calendar subscription service for channel events via webdav as a possible 'nice to have feature' given that webdav already exists as does the process to generate a list of .ics events.

I am no developer but it would be helpful if you or anyone could help with another question:

I'm guessing that the export calendar process generates the aggregated .ics file only when the link is clicked, is this correct?

My idea, given my technical limitations, would be to write a script to periodically find this file and copy it somewhere so that I can 'subscribe' to it. A directory under the channel's webdav path for example. If the aggregated file does not exist unless generated by clicking the link, any pointers on how to trigger this process from a script would be appreciated. I will also take a look myself to see if I can find the individual .ics files for each event, if that is how they are stored and see if I can aggregate them myself as an alternative.

Any help gratefully received and thanks for providing zap and all its relations.

mike

Wed, 02 Mar 2022 02:34:16 -0800

So basically use wget or curl to fetch https://$yoursite/events/ical once a day (or so) and post that to a CalDAV server with a second curl command. Sure. Go for it.

Fed Admin

Fri, 04 Mar 2022 00:32:29 -0800 last edited: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 00:43:58 -0800

So, I learned a lot. Having only used wget to download files occasionally I basically don't know what I'm doing.

This is what I found I could do:

I had no luck with https://my.domain.com/events/ical but by looking at what happens when I use the web gui I found I could use wget to:

Wget again to perform the export that gives me the .ics file.

Optional: Change channel and do the same for its events.

wget --save-cookies cookies.txt --keep-session-cookies --post-data='auth-params=login&username=myname&password=mytrickypassword' --delete-after [url=https://my.domain.com/login]https://my.domain.com/login[/url]

Get events into test.ics:

wget -d  --referer="https://my.domian.com/events" --load-cookies cookies.txt "https://my.domain.com/events/2022/3/export" -O test.ics

Change to another of my channels:

wget -d  --referer="https://my.domain.com/events" --load-cookies cookies.txt "https://my.domain.com/manage/4"

Get events into otherchannel.ics:

wget -d  --referer="https://my.domian.com/events" --load-cookies cookies.txt "https://my.domain.com/events/2022/3/export" -O otherchannel.ics

I can then copy these files to my zap server using the webdav feature and mounting it locally eg: login at
https://my.domain.com/dav/adirofmychoice/otherchannel.ics

Then I can use say, macOS' calendar app, to subscribe to the channel calendar and I guess use the Zap permission system to restrict access to it.

The eventual aim is to script this so that it does it automatically every day (or sooner).

Why bother doing this? To lower the threshold for friends of mine to interact with Zap. By including links in event descriptions I will, by stealth, get them to navigate to my Zap server via their calendar apps :) I joke about this, but I've noticed that friends prefer to trust the owners of SN platforms more than me. They believe if they use my server I might spy on what they are up to. Yes, it's true, the perceived anonymity while freely giving up their data trumps trusting me. Ok, that was a small digression on a big subject, back to questions I have:

Does the channel number remain fixed for the life of a channel (e.g. the number 4 in the .../manage/4 above)?

In the get events wget command above, what is the significance of /2022/3 . Is it just a starting point calculated from the current date ?

Is the above approach sensible or is there a different way I should be looking at this? (e.g. did I miss something with the https://my.domain.com/events/ical advice given?) I know it would be more sensible to do this on the server, but small steps and all that...

Thanks again.

2FA

Zap

Sun, 27 Feb 2022 15:28:29 -0800

André França wrote the following post Sun, 27 Feb 2022 15:28:29 -0800

2FA
Hello,
Please, is two-factor authentication (2FA) available on Zap (and Hubzilla)?
If yes, via which app?
Thanks.

mike

Sun, 27 Feb 2022 15:55:26 -0800

There's a Hubzilla addon called 'totp' which implements 2FA for that project. I have not yet investigated how difficult it would be to port to Zap. It doesn't look too scary.

Zap

Tue, 15 Feb 2022 01:30:55 -0800

Einer von Vielen wrote the following post Tue, 15 Feb 2022 01:30:44 -0800

@Zap

Something with the markup has changed

Links with markdown, as in RC

Replacements of ZOT specific mark down as for observer url / webname, as in /dav/

Is this a bug or a feature?

Environment: Browser=Chromium (Ubuntu), Roadhouse dev 22.01.21

Einer von Vielen

Tue, 15 Feb 2022 01:37:40 -0800

It seems to work above but did not in another post (same "source" text)

Thinking.........

mike

Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:57:43 -0800

None of the recent changes have messed with those areas of the code.

Zap

Sat, 12 Feb 2022 05:08:13 -0800

zebra wrote the following post Sat, 12 Feb 2022 05:08:12 -0800

hello Zap

Just a question about hubloc. What is the real goal of this table. I ask this question because I monitor my instance and notice that this table is growing very fast.
I have 130 item but hubloc has 5000 lignes with 43 Mega

I have only one account with few 7 contacts. I need to test the limit (size of database) etc... for autohost instance

mike

Sat, 12 Feb 2022 11:07:52 -0800

It is used to store the connection info and public keys for external channels (and their nomadic clones). This is used internally to provide a directory and friend suggestions as well as cataloguing the communication details for your current connections. The hubloc table in my single user site is aware of about 20k fediverse accounts and uses 100M after a few years of operation, whereas the entire DB uses just under 2G.

You can control how aggressively the directory is populated with the setting "Maximum number of imported friends of friends" from the admin/site page. The current value (10) was chosen to strike a balance between resource usage and having a useful directory with useful friend suggestions on smaller sites. With smaller numbers than this the hubloc table will grow much more slowly, but the quality and usefulness of the directory will be quite poor. Even slightly larger numbers will use dramatically higher resources, so be very careful when tweaking this. Don't set it over 20 unless you've got a shitload of disk space because it will very quickly discover and store every channel in the fediverse in your site directory. There are close to 5 million of these currently.

Zap

Fri, 04 Feb 2022 11:53:06 -0800

lotfi wrote the following post Fri, 04 Feb 2022 11:52:59 -0800

I noticed that when I change the access roles category (I have created some specific ones) for some connections, the category always and automatically returns to the "default" one. Did I miss something? I point out that the "Roles" app is installed.

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mike

Fri, 04 Feb 2022 15:24:48 -0800

Nah, it's ok. I wrote a method to go through each permission of each role and look for an exact match for each and every one of the entire list of permissions for that role. That works, but I still need to tweak a couple of things on the JS side to make it display correctly. I'll get it sorted in due course.

mike

Sat, 05 Feb 2022 14:25:54 -0800

This took longer than expected, but has just been pushed to Zap dev.

lotfi

Wed, 09 Feb 2022 11:41:27 -0800

It's perfect., Thanks!

Screenshot 2022-02-09 at 20-36-48 ^^ zap ^^.png

Converation with many comments take long time to load

Zap

Thu, 03 Feb 2022 03:37:22 -0800

Anmol Sharma wrote the following post Thu, 03 Feb 2022 03:37:21 -0800

Converation with many comments take long time to load
The conversation like this https://mastodon.social/@yogthos/107703452509566602 take long time to load, despite it shows only 3 comments in the conversation on load.

Is it possible to improve the conversation load time?

When all the comments are loaded (for eg. 430 of them) it becomes very difficult to scroll down if the comments are not interesting.

mike

Thu, 03 Feb 2022 11:46:27 -0800

Is it possible to improve the conversation load time?

When all the comments are loaded (for eg. 430 of them) it becomes very difficult to scroll down if the comments are not interesting.

"Lazy loading" of comments is not currently implemented.

504 Gateway Time-out

Zap

Wed, 02 Feb 2022 02:36:32 -0800

Anmol Sharma wrote the following post Wed, 02 Feb 2022 02:36:31 -0800

504 Gateway Time-out
After am getting lot of 504 Gateway Time-out. When I restart the php it works for few seconds and then same error. Other php apps are working fine.

How should I improve the php performance for the Zap?

oRx-Qx pirateradio

Wed, 02 Feb 2022 03:46:04 -0800

https://www.kinamo.be/en/support/faq/determining-the-correct-number-of-child-processes-for-php-fpm-on-nginx

Anmol

Wed, 02 Feb 2022 04:04:22 -0800

@oRx-Qx pirateradio Thanks

Zap

Fri, 28 Jan 2022 01:53:43 -0800

zebra wrote the following post Fri, 28 Jan 2022 01:53:43 -0800

General question about zap.

On contact add me on mastodon. I receive a contact request. OK
Now I wanted to know if he will receive my public message even without accepting it.

But no. My public message was not received in the stream.

Then I continue my test and accepted it.
Then all works well.

But how about contact who follow me and that I dont' follow ? I am talking about public message of course.

Message writen at https://z.macgirvin.com/channel/zap

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mike

Fri, 28 Jan 2022 11:16:16 -0800

That would be nice If my public channel would be really public without my action

I fully understand, but this software puts privacy first. If you want less privacy it requires changing the default settings.

lotfi

Fri, 28 Jan 2022 12:03:47 -0800

this software puts privacy first

In my case, that's why I'm here.

mike

Fri, 28 Jan 2022 14:03:53 -0800

In any case, after the next yunohost-zap upgrade you'll be able to set all of this up so followers are given the permissions you desire automatically.

I thought somebody was making yunohost containers upgrade-able in place but I don't think that has happened yet.

Zap

Fri, 28 Jan 2022 00:17:23 -0800

lotfi wrote the following post Fri, 28 Jan 2022 00:17:17 -0800

Hi,
Can someone tell me how to set up Zap calendar with my Android phone? I use Etar app synchronized with DavX. I had done it in the past but I don't remember how to do it.

mike

Fri, 28 Jan 2022 02:53:38 -0800

You'll want to connect to https://z.macgirvin.com/cdav or possibly https://z.macgirvin.com/cdav/calendars/ .

lotfi

Fri, 28 Jan 2022 02:58:34 -0800

Yes, thanks! The second one works.

Zap

Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:52:28 -0800

ponytail wrote the following post Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:52:28 -0800

@Zap
Hello,

On Zap when someone from Mastodon or Pleroma reshares a post, I see "Renoted by username" under the original post.
Is there any way to change this behavior and make it similar to Hubzilla?

One more thing which I noticed, on Zap polls are not really anonymous. Every time someone interacts with my poll, I get a notification, and their identity is revealed. Is this by design?

mike

Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:35:35 -0800

Is this by design?

yes. I suppose we could let you hide these notifications, but all you need to do is change your stream sorting order and you can each individual response as an article - with the author mentioned. So the information is there, and it would actually take an enormous amount of effort to completely hide it from you. Even then the site admin can see it...

Is there any way to change this behavior and make it similar to Hubzilla?

What would one need to do to make it similar to Hubzilla?

Roadhouse question

Zap

Tue, 11 Jan 2022 06:02:55 -0800

tombeau wrote the following post Tue, 11 Jan 2022 06:02:49 -0800

Roadhouse question
@Zap Do I have to do something on Roadhouse like a "composer update" you mentioned. Why? Both of my Roadhouse instance stopped to work.

mike

Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:01:08 -0800

Visit getcomposer.org and follow the instructions.

From your top-level roadhouse folder:


composer install --no-dev

Zap

Tue, 04 Jan 2022 15:05:50 -0800

OrX_Qx pirateradio wrote the following post Tue, 04 Jan 2022 15:05:46 -0800

@!Zap
Viewing of one post in Zap (first pic) and Hubzilla (second pic) with differences

Zap showing correctly 12 hours posting time, Hubzilla probably shows time of kandid boost

Zap shows JI boost, but not kandid (I dont have kandid in Zap) but Hubzilla does not (I do have JI in both), maybe Hubzilla just shows first boost as "via"

Hubzilla has obsolete profile photo but overall upto here it can be with little differences considered OK

But Zap does not show response from Pixelflowers. I do not have Pixeflowers nor Yhancik in Zap but I would expect to be there, on posts of my contacts I see comments from strangers. Maybe receive AP boost is not enough to be subscribed to all comments. But I can comment, what if I comment, do I receive all comments then? Should not be comments disabled? Hubzilla nor Zap does not offer any equivalent of boost and better make different copy of the post when using Share. Right?

Any thoughts?

Zap

Tue, 04 Jan 2022 16:24:01 -0800

Everything mentioned here is the result of tradeoffs we had to make to federate conversation-based platforms with microblog platforms. You may not see entire conversations unless you are connected with the author/sender at the head of the conversation and you and that author/sender are both using a conversational platform. We fetch what we can in other cases, but can only fetch things we know about. There is no agreed method of fetching entire conversations from the root, and few projects offer it, and they each do it differently.

Comment boxes are provided if:

.. the project supports comment permissions and makes them known and you're allowed to comment

.. the project doesn't support comment permissions, because microblog projects typically allow anybody to comment and those projects dominate the fediverse.

Both Hubzilla and Zap default to "forward inline" instead of "forward as attachment" (aka "boost"); though Zap automatically provides both in a number of cases.

OrX_Qx pirateradio

Wed, 05 Jan 2022 08:13:56 -0800

Thanks, sounds good, I noticed that in Zap a lot of things is presented better for AP. Why I am posting this is related to newcomers to fediverse or compatible projects. Mostly they do not know about federation details. So maybe it is for discussing about how to present in visual form what is going on.

When the conversation is missing due unavailability to fetch it, the comment could be disabled or presented in UI as "blind" comment, with information that previous conversation is only at original post location.

Today I have this post of a stranger not in my contacts on timeline, without any clue why I am receiving it. Just guessing it was a poll some of my contact voted in. Maybe also could be shown in similar way as XY repeated... that XY voted in the poll.

mike

Wed, 05 Jan 2022 12:51:34 -0800

The other solution is to go into your settings and turn off "Friend-of-friend conversations" (which disables thread completion).

Thread completion is imperfect and barely supported in today's fediverse (outside of the most basic mechanisms such as fetching the immediate parent of a given post) but its advantages in dramatically increasing the opportunities for new folks to interact with and discover others outside their own personal bubbles should not be dismissed entirely.

Donations link on Hubzilla website

Zap

Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:52:03 -0800

emanuel @ la bonne heure wrote the following post Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:52:01 -0800

Donations link on Hubzilla website
@!Zap
Hi Mike,
I'm working with other Hubzilla users on giving a face lift to the Hubzilla website hubzilla.org.
There will be a section get_involved -> fundings.
Do you want to be listed there with your paypal account? Is this account still valid: max@macgirvin.com? (As stated here: https://framagit.org/hubzilla/addons/-/blob/master/donate/view/tpl/donate.tpl)
I imagine a description text like this:
Mike Mcgirvin is the main developper of Zap. Many of his developpments are backported to Hubzilla. You can support his work through his paypal account.
Would this be fitting to you?

mike

Thu, 30 Dec 2021 22:47:59 -0800

As I'm not directly involved in Hubzilla development, it's probably best to politely decline..